This game is based on the 'Burgdorf' scenario on page 24 of the superb Bruce Rea Taylor 1984 scenario book - Battlezones : Scenarios for Ultra Modern Period. That scenario itself is based upon the first engagement in the seminal novel Chieftains by Bob Forrest Webb, written in 1982, based on some of Hackett's Third World War publications. Phew, you have to love the 80s!
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| (There may have been a few 'phissssssssssssh' impressions due to Milan) |
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| Outnumbered British in their prime, complete with Chieftain with a crap Leyland engine, and FV432 with crap everything else... |
Now the scenarios assume WRG or Challenger, hence they are on a 8x6 table with 1"=50m, at 1 model=1 tank. Double this up to 1"=100m, and you have a suite of mini scenarios on a 5'x3' table for 'Fistful of TOWs 3'.
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| One of the superlative works by the late Bruce Rea Taylor |
My intent with these was to get my head around the game off the back of recent advocates on Little Wars TV, and that the rules are 'on the list' to be used.
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| A book rivalled in its time, only by James Rouch's 'The Zone' series; but that, is another story. |
I have a decent collection of 1/200 British and Soviets which look superb (as I didn't paint 'em).
The British have elements of a Battle Group, with a squadron of Chieftains as the backbone, facing 2xtank battalions, a motor rifle battalion and a Hind-D.
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| NEVER let me play with editing software for pics...just don't |
Now, I won't go into detail on movement, and understandably the turn sequence is very intuitive, with options for overwatch (firing in enemy movement phase) and holding fire (firing in enemy fire phase). Quality Checks are the core of the game..so poor troops with a propensity to fail them when tasked, tend to disappear. Here is an example of firing:
- Chieftain: Front Armor 12 ; Main Gun Penetration 14 ROF 3, Effective Range 24"
- T-72 (Soviet Tank): Front Armor 10 ; Main Gun Penetration 14, ROF 2, Effective Range 16".
Assumptions for this example:
- Effective range (e.g., 20"; no close/long mods).
- Front-on shot (T-72 facing the Chieftain).
- Clear LOS, spotted (auto-spotted <10" or via spotter).
- No cover/terrain saves, day visibility, no suppression/overwatch.
- Crews: NATO "Good/Average" (+1 to-hit mod, QC 4+); Soviet "Average" (0 to-hit mod, QC 5+).
Declare Fire: Chieftain stand declares shot at T-72 stand (all fire vs. target declared before rolling; target priority: nearest enemy, but can ignore already-shot/infantry/etc.).
To-Hit Rolls: Roll d6 equal to weapon ROF (3). Hits on 4+ base (guns at effective range), modified by range, quality, whether suppressed, or on overwatch:
Cover/Terrain Save (skipped; no cover. Normally, e.g., town 4+ save per hit).
Penetration Rolls (per unsaved hit): Calculate dice = Gun Pen (14) - Target Front Armor (10) = 4 dice per hit.If Pen < Armor: Roll, then negative to hit - which means QC only
Quality Check (if 4-5 scored but no destroy): T-72 rolls 1d6 ≥ QC target (5+). Mods: -1 suppressed, -1 unit losses >⅔, etc. Fail = eliminate stand; pass = suppressed (-1 to-hit next turn).
It seems over-complicated, but not really, as it factors in troop quality, armour quality, and environmental factors.
The added bonus is that it covers 1915-21st century, so finally, a set of rules that cover most modern games with one core premise, and which aren't Command Decision!

British Line of Defence - cohesion distances actually played a part here, as rules-as-written, the British needed 8" element to element. This could be changed for static defence. 
Soviet centre. Sov T72 battalion come straight down the western autobahn 
Paltry defences, reinforced no doubt by first line highly motivated TA regiments, designed to be sacrificed in the first 48 hours...ahem 
Load SABOT...uhh , wait 
I stole a rule from a video online, where the Hind had to pop up to cross power lines 
ahhh....there he is - Red Air 
British ambush 
Long range selective fire (rules allow Rate of Fire to be split) destroys much of the T72 battalion (remember 1 tank = 1 platoon) 
"Put the tea on Dave, we're 'ere for a while mate!" 
The Soviet centre 
A land rover, with a Blowpipe team, races toward the British right, spotting the Hind...uhh, good luck with that kit lads... 
The Soviet centre collapses... 
...but a T-62 battalion, reinforced by the Hind flight, is making ground 
(There may have been a few 'phissssssssssssh' impressions due to Milan on the Soviet right) 
Hind-D time 
Soviet infantry on the right is ambushed as it pushes toward Burgdorf 
Sovs drop incendiary smoke, but in the wrong place 
The Sovs do very well on the right for a time, but British ambush fire, via infantry and Milan, proves very effective 
Another flank ambush In the end, having to get 6 vehicles through Burgdorf, and despite horrendous British armour casualties, due mainly to air interdiction and the lack of action from crap Blowpipe, the Soviets simply ran out of vehicles. British win, by default, as even they could not pull out with significant numbers.
A great set of rules. Lots to learn, but lots to offer.






Are they Skytrex? I had some in the mid 1980s. Very nice models. I also liked the ‘chunky’ infantry before they changed to the thin ones that stood like Bruce Forsyth.
ReplyDeleteYes, the vehicles are that Skytrex 1/200 range that the Army used to use for recognition, though the infantry is a different make - Barry Lovell's old company I think, if I could remember the name. I ended up buying these 2nd hand from chaps in the group after hankering after the skytrex stuff for years.
DeleteReminds me, that I need to try your modern rules...
Skytrex are still available. Coupled with 3d prints it’s not hard to put something decent together at reasonable cost. I remember gluing some cheap railway flock to my Chieftains’ turrets before I undercoated them which produced a pleasing camo net effect when painted! Re rules, I produced some especially for the Skytrex stuff - a single sheet of A4 produced on an old typewriter!
DeleteAhhh interesting. I was thinking of the big battle rules you had sent me, as needing a try. But your skytrex rules do sound interesting ;)
DeleteCool stuff, Darren, thanks for sharing. Your 1/200 troops look great, I’ve been intrigued by the scale but really need to stick with what I’ve already got. So how’d you like the rules? I’m thinking about trying Cold War Commander, and why not try FOB WWII?
ReplyDeleteV/R,
Jack
Thanks Jack. Actually, these rules are supposed to give us a means of using all of that 1/300 that I bought from you - it's just that for Burgdorf, I did not have enough of the British based :)
DeleteSo this was 1/200 because it was ready. A nice scale but expensive...and I had bought them already based in this case.
So the rules:
I like FFT3 as it got a lot of traction in 'Little Wars TV' recently - there are a lot of moving parts, but inside there is a pretty simple system. I have been following the development of them since the 90s, and boy...have they added a lot to them. Still, there is a full on system in there that can be noted for the conflict in question.
For FoBww2 - yes - I actually asked AI to give me breakdowns of a modern version plus scenarios - though it is 'one unit= one company' so it needs its own scenarios. Burgdorf would be too small - but yes, I am working on this.
For CWC, I am still not sure. I don't like the rule whereby a unit can take hits, pull back, recover, and come straight back in. I get that it can happen with infantry, but in my head, I can never see 5 x T72s taking a lot of hits (and surviving), pulling back, and going back in. I see Russian armor as a 'one hit wonder', that the 'quantity is the quality'...so I will most likely avoid CWC, but still up for debate.
If you like the "Warmaster" basic game mechanics, CWC is fine. Games based on that system are my own personal nightmare. I agree here that FFT is a delight as are Modern Spearhead and Sabre Squadron.
DeleteMany thanks Ski. Yep, I have had massive problems with 'Black Powder' in the past, which is a warmaster hack. I thought though, that for modern, the random activation might work, nut it has problems combined with the recovery protocols, in my view.
DeleteFFT3 has lots to offer. Agreed on Sabre Squadron and Modern Spearhead...have played some, but need to play more.
Thanks again.
Some nostalgia there with that Chieftans book! Depressing though....
ReplyDeleteI think I read every WW3 book going back in the 80s....
Neil
It did not have a nice ending as I recall, no. The game rules just need a 50% breakdown rate every time they move.
DeleteNow for real ww3 'fiction', I read 'the Zone' at an early age, which had some shockers ;)